we won the war in iraq. bush did a lot of fine things. he can separate himself from bush policy particularly in the last couple of years. he's done so with having paul ryan there. he was a critic of bush spending. he's a critic of obama spending. there's a recent survey, ask people would you prefer a bigger government with more services or a bigger economy with more jobs. 75-15, bigger economy with more jobs. conservatives have families, they believe in families, they work, and by the way, this rack of lack compassion for people who are suffering. why in every survey or every study, self-identified conservatives give more of their time, their money, their blood and their treasures to helping people. >> i want to ask this point. do you believe governor romney is a practical enough politician to cut a deal with democrats to rely on paul ryan to essentially assuage conservatives -- that's important. you don't get that from the interview but spending time with him i get that impression. >> -- sure to fight -- >> that's the point. >> sure to s